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July 3, 2008 Plan Commission Meeting

TOWN OF BROOKLYN
NOTICE OF PLAN COMMISSION MEETING
July 3, 2008  6:00 PM 
Town Office — N5988 County Road A  ---- Green Lake, WI 
E-mail: townofbrooklyn@centurytel.net
Web: www.townofbrooklyn.com
 
NOTICE: Members of the Town of Brooklyn Board may attend the Town of
Brooklyn Plan Commission meeting at the above-specified time and
place. Members would attend for the purpose of gathering information
regarding the following
Agenda. The Town Board members at this meeting will take no votes or
other action.

Minutes 


1.	Call meeting to order by Mike Wuest at 6:00 p.m.
Present: Mike Wuest, Chair; Harley Reabe; Orlo Bierman; Mary Jane
Bumby; Ron Triemstra; Roger Priebe,  & Marian Mildebrandt, Clerk.
Absent: Sharon Esslinger. 
2.	Pledge of Allegiance  - Said by all in attendance
3.	Approve minutes of the last Plan Commission from June 5, 2008. M/S
Reabe/Bierman to approve minutes as presented. Motion carried 5-0
4.	Public Comments: (15 minutes) 
5.	Public Hearing  (15 minutes) – 
Variance forms & fees for the Town have not been filed or paid,
therefore M/S Wuest/Reabe to table to next month’s meeting if forms
are presented.
Roll call:  Bierman, Yes; Bumby, Yes; Triemstra, Yes; Priebe, Yes;
Reabe, Yes. Motion carried 5 – 0. 
6.	Consideration and action: -  
a.	Item I: Owner: Daniel N & Joan M Ambrosino Applicant: Don Lenz,
Green Lake Surveying Co. Address: W2081 Irving Park Road, Parcels
#004-00990-0000 & #004-00991-0000 – Irving Park Plat Lots 1 & 2
Certified Survey Map 2860 V14 (A Resurvey of Lot 1 CSM 2722, Section
29, T16N, R13E, Town of Brooklyn (+ 2,761 Acres) Explanation: The
applicant is requesting a variance to Section 315-34.B. of the County
Land Division Ordinance and Section 338-13.B. of the County Shoreland
Protection Ordinance to allow the modification of a lot line creating
2 new land areas, but not providing the minimum average lot width of
100 feet for one of the new land areas.
7.	Consideration and action: Discussion with Al Shute from County
Zoning and Planning on County and Town Land ordinances.
Discussion on the 10 items presented to Al Shute. 
1.	What is the County's in-house procedure for processing a
subdivision?
2.	Who does the technical and engineering review of a plat? 
3.	How does the County handle "concept plans", if that is part of
their procedure?
4.	What weight does the County put on a Town's comments, or
recommendations, when a Town does not have a platting ordinance?
5.	Does the County respond to a Town's registering complaints about a
developer not completing a plan/plat according to the "developer's
agreement" with the County?
6.	Who or how well does the County monitor a developer's progress and
compliance with the County's Subdivision Ordinance?
7.	Does the County have a Conservation Subdivision Ordinance
(category)?
8.	 If yes, can the County directly invoke it?
9.	Is the County going to invoke it?
10.	And if not, can a Conservation Ordinance3 be invoked by citizen
petition?
Discussion was held on the above 10 items. Mr. Shute indicated that
the town ordinance is stricter that the County’s.  Fees are $200 per
plat plus $15.00 per lot for primary and also for final plat. We do
check items to make sure done. 
Wuest: The town does more engineering work and that is why our fees
are more expensive. Reabe: Does Land Conservation have fees also,
Shute doesn’t know what they are, but they are significant. 
Triemstra: we are unique that we have an ordinance standing. What
weight does your staff put on the work that the town has required to
be done on plats? On plats, if sanitary lines are going across private
property, it should be shown on plat. 
The two ordinances have differences on how a road should be built. The
Town should have an ordinance that handles road development, and let
the county handle the basic subdivision parts. 
The Town would like to be informed when a change is made in the
subdivision ordinance, so that we can review our ordinance.
The Town doesn’t want to make it so difficult that developers don’t
want to develop in the Town.  Shute: A possibility would be to trim
your ordinance down, and still have the control, maybe make it a Land
Development Ordinance for example. 
Subdivisions – that are built in the county and are not under county
zoning -- do they have to abide by county zoning? - Shute: yes. 

County has an ordinance. An Ordinance controlling: Building, Numbering
and Maintenance.  This was developed through judicial law and
developed due to the fact that someone on a private road named a road
similar to the existing town road. Lots of problems developed with the
naming of the private road. 
At the county level, after a plat is recorded, other groups supervise
the development of the plat. 

Discussion of Plan Commission: Bierman – thinks we should do think
about all the information we received tonight, and discuss it next
month. 

8.	Suggested agenda items for next meeting  - Subdivision plan, and
variance if plan is presented to the town.  Also the ETJ Committee?
9.	Set next meeting date & time- August 7, 2008  6:00 p.m. 
10.	Adjourn. –  M/S Bumby/Bierman to adjourn, Motion carried 5 -0 


Requests from persons with disabilities that need assistance to
participate in this meeting or hearing should be made to the Town
Office at 294-6600 with as much advance notice as possible.
 
 Respectfully submitted,



 Marian Mildebrandt, Clerk

Archive

  • June 8, 2010 Town Board Meeting
  • May 11, 2010 Town Board Meeting
  • April 20, 2010 April 21, 2009 Annual Meeting Minutes
  • April 13, 2010 Town Board Meeting
  • March 10, 2010 Town Board Meeting
  • February 9, 2010 Town Board Meeting
  • January 12, 2010 Town Board Meeting
  • December 8, 2009 Town Board Meeting
  • November 10, 2009 Town Board Meeting
  • October 13, 2009 Town Board Meeting
  • September 8, 2009 Town Board Meeting
  • August 6, 2009 Plan Commission Meeting
  • July 14, 2009 Town Board Meeting
  • June 9, 2009 Town Board Meeting
  • June 4, 2009 Plan Commission Meeting
  • May 21, 2009 Special Meeting Town Board
  • May 12, 2009 Town Board Meeting
  • April 14, 2009 Town Board Meeting
  • April 2, 2009 Plan Commission Meeting
  • March 10, 2009 Town Board Meeting
  • March 5, 2009 Plan Commission Meeting
  • February 10, 2009 March 10, 2009 Town Board Minutes
  • February 10, 2009 Town Board Meeting
  • February 5, 2009 Plan Commission Meeting
  • February 5, 2009 Joint Plan Commission/Town Board Meeting
  • January 13, 2009 Town Board Meeting
  • January 8, 2009 Plan Commission Meeting
  • December 9, 2008 Town Board Meeting
  • November 11, 2008 Town Board Meeting
  • November 6, 2008 Plan Commission Meeting
  • October 14, 2008 Town Board Meeting
  • October 2, 2008 Plan Commission Meeting
  • September 10, 2008 Town Board Meeting - Revised
  • September 4, 2008 Plan Commission Meeting
  • August 12, 2008 Town Board Meeting - Revised
  • August 7, 2008 Plan Commission Meeting
  • July 8, 2008 Town Board Meeting
  • July 3, 2008 Plan Commission Meeting
  • June 10, 2008 Town Board Meeting
  • June 4, 2008 Plan Commission Meeting
  • May 13, 2008 Town Board Meeting
  • May 1, 2008 Plan Commission Meeting
  • April 8, 2008 Town Board Meeting
  • April 3, 2008 Plan Commission Meeting
  • March 26, 2008 Town Board Meeting
  • March 11, 2008 Town Board Meeting
  • March 7, 2008 Town Board Meeting
  • February 12, 2008 Town Board Meeting
  • February 7, 2008 Plan Commission Meeting
  • January 8, 2008 Town Board Meeting
  • January 3, 2008 Plan Commission Meeting
  • December 11, 2007 Town Board Meeting
  • November 13, 2007 Regular Board Meeting
  • October 9, 2007 Regular Board Meeting
  • October 9, 2007 Plan Commission
  • October 2, 2007 Plan Commission Meeting
  • September 11, 2007 Regular Board Meeting
  • August 14, 2007 Regular Board Meeting
  • August 2, 2007 Plan Commission
  • July 10, 2007 Regular Board Meeting
  • June 12, 2007 Regular Board Meeting
  • May 8, 2007 Regular Board Meeting
  • May 3, 2007 Joint Plan Commission/Town Board Meeting
  • April 12, 2007 Joint Plan Commission/Town Board Meeting
  • April 10, 2007 Regular Board Meeting
  • March 13, 2007 Regular Board Meeting
  • February 13, 2007 Regular Board Meeting
  • January 9, 2007 Regular Board Meeting - January
  • January 4, 2007 Plan Commission
  • March 14, 2006 Regular Monthly Meeting
  • February 14, 2006 Regular Monthly Meeting
  • February 13, 2006 Plan Commission
  • January 25, 2006 Regular Monthly Meeting
  • January 10, 2006 Regular Monthly Meeting
  • January 10, 2006 Plan Commission
  • January 5, 2006 Plan Commission
  • December 13, 2005 Regular Monthly Meeting
  • December 8, 2005 Plan Commission
  • December 8, 2005 Planning Staff Report
  • November 8, 2005 Regular Monthly Meeting
  • November 3, 2005 Plan Commission
  • October 11, 2005 Regular Monthly Meeting
  • October 6, 2005 Plan Commission
  • September 13, 2005 Regular Monthly Meeting
  • September 1, 2005 Plan Commission
  • August 9, 2005 Regular Monthly Meeting
  • July 12, 2005 Regular Monthly Meeting
  • June 14, 2005 Regular Monthly Meeting
  • May 10, 2005 Regular Monthly Meeting
  • May 4, 2005 Plan Commission
  • April 27, 2005 Plan Commission
  • April 12, 2005 Regular Monthly Meeting
  • April 6, 2005 Plan Commission
  • March 8, 2005 Regular Monthly Meeting
  • February 8, 2005 Regular Monthly Meeting
  • January 11, 2005 Regular Monthly Meeting
  • December 14, 2004 Regular Monthly Meeting
  • December 2, 2004 Plan Commission